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THE BERN SEMINAR-PAGE 140

(G.V.): …did they ever find anything wrong with your heart? (M.P.): No, I was checked out over a year ago by a cardiologist. (G.V.): But did they catch you at a time when you were in a crisis, with palpitations and things like that?
(M.P.): I was pretty nervous at that time actually, and I think… (G.V.): When you went to see the cardiologist?
(M.P.): Yes, and he said that he heard a few atopic beats, extrasystoles, but he said that he felt that there was nothing wrong. It was sort of a reaction, an emotional thing.
(G.V.): Last time I saw you, you said that you had these palpitations and troubles especially when walking uphill; is that still the case? (M.P.): Not so much. It is strange, I can do a lot of exercise and not be bothered by it, and other times I can walk upstairs and be bothered by it. I think it is tied in with my mental state. (G.V.); Emotional or mental? (M.P.); Emotional.
(G.V.): Do you know what kind of emotions can bring on the palpitations?
(M.P.): Fear, I think. I mean, I am more likely to be around people and say… I do some study group now every other Monday, and when I go to the study group, I always know that I have study group today because I get palpitations; not so much the arrhythmia or anything like that, but I can hear my heart beating. Or when I go to work, when I have to be on a one-to-one level with people, sometimes I am more anxious; so I think it is tied up with that. I can’t have more of a nervous part, but I think I had for many years this sort of anxiety and nervousness, and it triggered my heart and made it react, it felt like it weakened it in some way. (G.V.): How is your general strength? Your energy level? (M.P.): I think it is quite good.
(G.V.): Do you still work with gardens and things like that? (M.P.): Yes, I was doing a lot of gardening work, and… (G.V.): Do you enjoy it at all?
(M.P.): Yes. I enjoyed it because it was different from what I was usually doing, and it also helped my anxiety about money: I was earning more money, which is good.
(G.V.): What are you doing now, are you still doing the gardening? (M.P.): Well, it is difficult at this time of the year; so, I’m working with